Full transcript of “Face the Nation” on Oct. 30, 2022

On this “Face the Nation” broadcast, moderated by Margaret Brennan:

Jen Easterly, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Safety AgencyRep. Tom Emmer, Republican from MinnesotaDavid Becker, CBS Information election legislation contributorRep. Sean Maloney, Democrat of New York

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MARGARET BRENNAN: Good morning, and welcome to Face the Nation.

Final week was an especially troubling one in American politics. We now have simply eight days left till Election Day, and the nation is feeling deeply unsettled.

Our CBS Information Battleground Tracker ballot out this morning exhibits {that a} beautiful 79 % — that is almost eight in 10 seemingly voters — say that the nation is uncontrolled. That is an ominous signal for the Democrats, who maintain energy in Washington. Of these 79 % anticipated to vote subsequent Tuesday, Republicans have a greater than 20-point benefit.

Two points, the well being of the economic system and the well being of American democracy, have taken middle stage on this marketing campaign, and it’s the latter topic and the political rhetoric that might assist gasoline violence that’s underneath contemporary scrutiny following Friday’s assault on Paul Pelosi, the 82-year-old husband of Home Speaker Nancy Pelosi, at their residence in San Francisco.

CBS Information congressional correspondent Scott MacFarlane has extra.

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SCOTT MACFARLANE (voice-over): The day after the horrific assault, Home Speaker Nancy Pelosi expressed gratitude for legislation enforcement and her husband’s medical crew and mentioned she and her household have been heartbroken and traumatized by the life-threatening assault.

President Biden spoke with the Pelosis on Saturday.

JOE BIDEN (President of the USA): Do not know for sure, however it seems like this was meant for Nancy. He stored asking: “The place’s Nancy? The place’s Nancy?”

SCOTT MACFARLANE: Forty-two-year-old David DePape will face a sequence of felony expenses within the coming days, together with tried murder, accused of hanging the 82-year-old Pelosi within the head a number of instances with a hammer.

DePape’s social media posts are saturated with conspiracy theories, Holocaust denial and claims of election fraud. Democrats argue Republicans should do extra to denounce the violence and finish the baseless claims that might gasoline threats.

PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: That is the issue. We won’t simply say, I really feel badly in regards to the violence and we condemn it. Condemn what produces the violence. And this speak produces the violence.

SCOTT MACFARLANE: The assault on Paul Pelosi is the newest in a rising wave of threats and plots towards elected officers.

Capitol Police information obtained by CBS Information present almost 10,000 investigations into threats on members of Congress final 12 months.

Georgia Democratic Senator Raphael Warnock has spent closely on safety this election cycle.

Our Nikole Killion caught up with him on the marketing campaign path.

SENATOR RAPHAEL WARNOCK (D-Georgia): I am not naive in regards to the robust second we’re in. And there are people who find themselves making an attempt to stir that up for short- time period political acquire recreation. It is harmful stuff.

SCOTT MACFARLANE: In the meantime, an intelligence bulletin obtained by CBS Information warns of a heightened risk from home extremist teams on and after Election Day, not simply attainable concentrating on of elected officers, however of elections directors, political rallies and of attainable makes an attempt to intimidate voters or use claims of fraud to justify violence after the election, particularly in instances the place it takes extra time to certify the outcomes.

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SCOTT MACFARLANE: Regardless of baseless claims of fraud, the 2020 election is taken into account probably the most safe and profitable in U.S. historical past.

And voting up to now in 2022 has been protected and safe. Up to now, greater than 20 million individuals have voted early, and elections officers say they’re being vigilant and coordinating with police, emphasizing, everybody ought to really feel protected popping out to vote — Margaret.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Scott MacFarlane, thanks.

We go now to Jen Easterly, the director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Safety Company, often known as CISA. That is the Homeland Safety company tasked with securing America’s cybersecurity infrastructure and coordinating with states on election safety.

And you are going to be very busy. I am glad you are right here with us immediately.

JEN EASTERLY (Director, U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Safety Company): Nice to be right here.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I wish to ask you about this bulletin, first off.

It warns, home violent extremists could view election-related infrastructure, personnel and voters as engaging targets. Are you conscious of speedy and credible threats?

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: No.

Let me be very clear on the high. Now we have no details about particular or credible threats to disrupt or compromise election infrastructure. I would like that to be very clear. We’re placing out data, just like the warnings that you just talked about, to ensure that state and native election officers have the knowledge that they should shield their voting programs and their election infrastructure.

That mentioned, Margaret, it’s a very complicated risk surroundings. You’ve cyber threats. You’ve insider threats. You’ve rampant disinformation. And, sure, very worryingly, you might have threats of harassment, intimidation and violence towards election officers, polling locations and voters.

Let’s be actually clear. That has to cease. It’s unacceptable conduct. It is undemocratic. And all of us have to work collectively to make sure that this can be a protected and safe election.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And it’s the states that administer the election. You’re offering help to them.

What’s the Election Day plan for safety after which communication? What are we going to listen to and see?

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: So, on Election Day, really, we at CISA are going to be in our personal operations middle.

We’ll have federal authorities companions, non-public sector companions there, after which we will be in direct communication with all the state and native election officers whose job it’s to run and administer elections. We’ll be working to share data, and we will be working to have the ability to reply to something that occurs.

However, bear in mind, on the finish of the day, the connection between native officers and native legislation enforcement is extremely vital. And I used to be actually inspired by the opinion piece that got here out yesterday with the sheriff in Massachusetts, one in Colorado, speaking about the truth that guaranteeing election safety is a nonpartisan difficulty, and threats to election officers need to cease.

So, that connectivity on the native degree, the knowledge sharing, the planning and exercising that is taking place is absolutely vital to making sure safety on the — on the polling place and on the poll field.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We speak quite a bit about rhetoric and the chance of triggering violence.

And social media is a spot the place false data typically spreads. So, I wish to ask you about what’s taking place now at Twitter. It is now privately owned by billionaire Elon Musk. This morning, he tweeted a conspiracy principle about Nancy Pelosi’s husband.

Given how charged the environment is, are you involved about how this platform would possibly change and that it’ll make your job harder?

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: Effectively, to begin with, horrific assault on Mr. Pelosi, and ideas and prayers go to their household.

That could be a determination that social media firms, that Twitter will make. They make their very own choices, based mostly on phrases of service. I’m laser- targeted…

MARGARET BRENNAN: That is the proprietor himself tweeting this out.

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: I’m laser-focused on the following 9 days and the time that comes after elections on doing the whole lot we are able to to make sure safety.

I do wish to be very clear on this, although, Margaret. These elections, election officers, these usually are not faceless backroom bureaucrats.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper.

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: Proper?

These are our kinfolk, our mates, our neighbors. They’re in our group. They’re devoted public servants which might be working day in and day trip to make sure the safety of elections. And so they deserve not simply our help, however our admiration and respect. And so they should be protected. And all of us should be accountable about guaranteeing that is a protected and safe surroundings.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Which is why I am asking you in regards to the place the place these conspiracy theories unfold.

The FBI report, after we checked out it, by way of these direct threats to election employees, highlighted Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and Wisconsin as locations the place voter intimidation and threats to election employees have been seen.

Are these areas of best concern for you?

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: Involved throughout the board.

Now we have cyber threats from nation states and cyber criminals. You’ve insider threats. You’ve bodily threats, as we talked about, after which you might have disinformation, so, disinformation, overseas affect that can be utilized to sow discord, that may undermine confidence in election integrity and that can be utilized to incite violence.

So, what are we doing? We’re doing a pair issues. To begin with, we’re placing out details about techniques and disinformation and learn how to construct resilience towards disinformation. Now we have a rumor vs.actuality web site that is mainly election literacy.

However, most significantly, we’re amplifying the voices of native and state election officers. They’re the trusted voices that perceive how elections work. If anyone has questions on voting or what — the way it all works, you need to go to their native — native election officers.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.

So, that is who they need to be following on Twitter and social media?

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: These are the specialists.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Discover out who your native election official is and observe their account?

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: Precisely. Precisely.

And, you understand, I ought to level out, the Nationwide Affiliation of Secretaries of State, NASS.org, TrustedInfo2022, a fantastic supply for data, in addition to the Nationwide Affiliation of Election Administrators, NASED.org, ceaselessly requested questions.

That is one of the best — greatest place to go. They know the way elections occur. When you’ve seen one state in an election, you’ve got seen one state. It is really surprisingly technical and sophisticated, and that is why I welcome individuals asking questions.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: You already know, the great thing about democracy is that it is participatory. We are able to all have a job. So, volunteer, be a ballot employee, ask questions, the extra transparency, the higher.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Earlier than I allow you to go, I wish to ask you in regards to the overseas risk.

In 2016, Russia probed voter registration logs. We all know there are warnings about what China is doing proper now. How efficient has this marketing campaign by Beijing been? And are there different state actors or non-state actors you are involved about?

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: Yeah, we have seen Russia, we have seen Iran, we have seen China use the playbook for affect operations.

That is why it is so vital that Individuals notice…

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper now.

DIRECTOR JEN EASTERLY: … that they should construct resilience towards that.

When you see data that is on the Web, you are unsure whether or not it is true, be crucial about it, ask questions, take a look at the supply, examine it, and do not unfold that data any extra broadly and provides — mainly give overseas adversaries an opportunity to control Individuals and to sow discord and to create insecurity in our elections.

However I wish to be very, very clear. I’ve confidence within the elections which might be going to be run due to the large quantity of labor that is been finished throughout the federal authorities, at state and native election officers, with election distributors, to place a number of, a number of layers of resilience and safety controls in place.

I’m assured that elections will probably be protected and safe, and the American individuals ought to believe within the integrity of elections once they go to the poll field, once they forged their vote.

MARGARET BRENNAN: All proper, good luck to you. Will probably be a busy subsequent few days and weeks.

Thanks very a lot.

And we flip now to the chairman of the Nationwide Republican Congressional Committee, Minnesota Congressman Tom Emmer.

Good morning. Good to have you ever right here in particular person.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER (R-Minnesota): Good morning.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I’ve to ask you about what we have simply been speaking about right here.

How involved are you in regards to the threat of political violence, and the way ought to it’s minimized?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: There is not any place for violence, interval, in our society, bodily violence or violence towards somebody’s property.

I believe you’ve got already lined that right here this morning. The incident in San Francisco, tragic as it’s, I believe we’d like some extra details about it, however we should always all be feeling for Paul Pelosi and his household. Hopefully, there will probably be a 100% restoration.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And simply to be abundantly clear, you denounce any type of assault on the Pelosi household?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Completely.

There ought to be no assaults, interval. There ought to be no violence in our society, once more, whether or not it is political or in any other case. There is not any place for it in a civilized society.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Effectively, I am glad you mentioned that, as a result of I wish to ask you about one thing in our CBS Information ballot that exhibits that, whilst Republicans are poised to guide this contest and — and take management of the Home, we see suspicion, particularly amongst Republicans, in regards to the voting course of.

A giant majority of Republicans help the thought of personal residents difficult election officers as they course of and report vote counts on election night time. We’re seeing that on the display screen now. Two-thirds of Republicans help the thought of personal residents patrolling round poll drop packing containers and polling locations.

That is simply Republicans. We do not see this with Democrats. We don’t see this with independents. Would you urge non-public residents to not patrol polling locations?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Effectively, you picked the phrases, Margaret.

I’d say that it’s Republicans, Democrats, independents. All Americans are very acutely conscious, as your earlier visitor simply talked about, about our election course of. I believe that is going to be an excellent election, as a result of individuals are awake. They’re paying consideration.

They need to volunteer as ballot watchers. It is a state-based system. No matter your state requires and permits, you need to positively be concerned. And I believe it’ll assist the method.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And simply to be abundantly clear, ballot watching is completely different than voter intimidation, which is illegal.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: No person ought to be intimidated once they’re exercising their most treasured proper to vote.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, once you see video, as we’ve seen in a spot like in Arizona, the place you see people with tactical gear, the place you see people with weapons exterior drop packing containers, the place — how do you classify that?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Once more, nobody ought to really feel intimidated once they’re exercising their proper to vote.

MARGARET BRENNAN: That’s intimidating?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: You have acquired — you’ve got acquired tales on either side of the aisle. You’ve got tales in many alternative states about how individuals have felt as if their proper was infringed on.

I believe cooler heads have to prevail.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: I actually suppose we will have election. I believe you’ve got acquired 15-million plus which have already participated in early voting throughout this nation.

I believe you are going to have an enormous turnout in 9 days any longer the election. And I believe, once more, Republicans, Democrats and others are nicely conscious of the problems that we had throughout COVID. Individuals have been stepping up and making an attempt to do issues to ensure we have been protected and protected, however they have been adjusting election legal guidelines on the fly.

I believe numerous that has been resolved. I believe you are going to see a extremely good expertise in 9 days.

MARGARET BRENNAN: OK. So you’ll urge residents to not patrol polling locations?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Once more, I urge everybody, become involved.

MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: No matter your state permits, become involved. Volunteer.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I would like…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Precisely what your…

MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: … your earlier visitor mentioned.

MARGARET BRENNAN: As a result of I wish to ask…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Be a part of the method.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I wish to ask you, as a result of, on this bulletin, it additionally talks a couple of linkage in drawing and — and undermining confidence in elections due to 2020.

And you’re on this checklist that we’ve of 307 Republicans working for workplace who’ve raised doubts in regards to the integrity of the election. I imply, they’re drawing a direct line right here between sowing mistrust then and what we’re seeing proper now.

Do you remorse sowing doubts your self?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: I — what you are referring to, I’ve by no means sowed doubts in regards to the election. I’ve positively raised questions.

MARGARET BRENNAN: However you signed onto this Texas amicus transient…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Completely. Let’s speak about that.

MARGARET BRENNAN: … that went to the Supreme Courtroom to overturn it.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: What it mentioned was — Margaret, what that — what that mentioned, that amicus transient, is that lots of people, governors, attorneys basic, secretaries of state, took unilateral motion throughout COVID, altering…

MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: … altering the election legal guidelines themselves.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, you do not remorse these…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Once more, if I might end — altering election legal guidelines themselves to attempt to ensure that we have been protected whereas we exercised our proper to vote.

That individual amicus transient, all it mentioned was that we have to reaffirm that state legislatures, and legislatures alone, make their election legal guidelines. So, as we go ahead, as soon as we’re out of COVID, we’ve to…

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, you…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: … return to that.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, to be clear, you do not contemplate your self an election denier?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Completely not.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And Joe Biden is the legitimately elected…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: We — we…

MARGARET BRENNAN: … president of United States of America?

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REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: He is sworn. He is serving. He’s the president of the USA.

MARGARET BRENNAN: He’s the president of the USA. However you stand by…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: And we have an election in 9 days. We have got an election in 9 days that we have been engaged on for the final two years.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: You reported within the in — intro that eight out of ten Individuals in that very same ballot that you just’re referring to are involved with the place this nation is. They are saying it is uncontrolled.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper, however you are not undermining…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: When you look, eight out of 10…

MARGARET BRENNAN: You are not which means to undermine confidence within the 2020 election along with your feedback right here?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Eight out of ten Individuals proper now suppose we’re on the incorrect monitor. That is what they are going to be voting on in 9 days.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I do know.

And I’d love to speak about one thing aside from individuals worrying for his or her lives. However, sadly, that is the place we’re.

I wish to ask you about this with regards to political violence. In your Twitter feed, you posted this video we will present only a few days in the past the place you are firing a gun, and it says: “Loved exercising my Second Modification rights. #FirePelosi.”

Why is there a gun in a political advert in any respect?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: It wasn’t an advert. I used to be — I used to be tweeting out — I used to be tweeting out one thing that I had simply finished.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Hashtag — or a tweet — hashtag #FirePelosi, with a weapon.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Effectively, now you are…

MARGARET BRENNAN: Would not a pink slip be extra becoming, if it is about firing her?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: It is fascinating, Margaret.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Why a gun?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: It is fascinating, Margaret, that we’re speaking about this, this morning, when, a few years again, when a Bernie Sanders supporter shot Steve Scalise…

MARGARET BRENNAN: Which was horrendous and horrific…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: … when a Bernie Sanders supporter…

MARGARET BRENNAN: … which is why we ought to be not…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: … shot Steve Scalise…

MARGARET BRENNAN: … be placing weapons…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: … I by no means heard you or anybody else within the media making an attempt guilty Democrats for what occurred.

We have to keep targeted on what we’re all doing…

MARGARET BRENNAN: We did in depth protection of what occurred to Steve Scalise.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Excuse me?

MARGARET BRENNAN: There was in depth protection, sir.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: However no one tried to equate Democrats’ rhetoric, those that say…

MARGARET BRENNAN: I am not speaking about your rhetoric. I am speaking about what you posted.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: It is the identical.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You are taking pictures a gun. Our viewers simply noticed it.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Yeah, proper.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Hashtag #FirePelosi.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Exercising our Second Modification rights, having enjoyable…

MARGARET BRENNAN: That is not a debate in regards to the Second Modification.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: … taking pictures a gun. Yeah.

MARGARET BRENNAN: That is not a debate in regards to the Second Modification.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Sure, it’s.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Hashtag #FirePelosi.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Sure, it’s.

I — I am working the marketing campaign operation.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you not perceive that that’s suggestive to people who find themselves in a foul state, and, on this present surroundings, how dangerous it’s? As you are speaking about…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Effectively, I disagree, Margaret.

MARGARET BRENNAN: … the significance of reducing the rhetoric…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: I disagree with you.

MARGARET BRENNAN: … why do you allow that up?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Once more, I by no means noticed anybody after Steve Scalise was shot by a…

MARGARET BRENNAN: I am speaking about proper now…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: … Bernie Sanders supporter…

MARGARET BRENNAN: … what simply is occurring proper now.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: .. making an attempt to equate — equate Democrat rhetoric with these actions. Please do not do this.

MARGARET BRENNAN: OK.

your candidates, Republican candidates have spent greater than $116 million on advertisements that talked about Speaker Pelosi by title of their cycle. If that is in regards to the points, why should not make it in regards to the points? Why not depersonalize it?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: It’s completely in regards to the points. It is about the truth that we’ve double-digit inflation…

MARGARET BRENNAN: You do not suppose…

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: … exploding — exploding value of dwelling. We have got against the law wave throughout this nation that may be a direct consequence — is the direct consequence…

MARGARET BRENNAN: On this second — we’re eight days out — do not you suppose this wants to vary?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Once more…

MARGARET BRENNAN: Why not pull a few of these advertisements? Why not simply delete your tweet?

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: Effectively, I am positive — I am positive individuals wish to speak about something however what the Democrats have finished to this nation, which, fairly frankly, is exploding value of dwelling, against the law wave in our main cities that’s the results of this defund the police nonsense and cashless bail.

I imply, you take a look at New York Metropolis, the place you place somebody in jail at 9:00 p.m. for assaulting somebody on the road and so they’re again out on the road at 9:00 a.m. committing crimes once more. You take a look at my state of Minnesota, Minneapolis, it is had 6,000 assaults for the reason that starting of the 12 months, Margaret.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-hmm.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: These are the problems which might be high of thoughts for each voter on this nation.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: That is why they are going to present up in — on the — on November 8.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-hmm.

REPRESENTATIVE TOM EMMER: And that is why Republicans are going to win within the midterms.

MARGARET BRENNAN: That is what our projections are displaying.

However I’d recommend extra pink slips, fewer weapons in our advertisements on this surroundings.

Sir, thanks for becoming a member of us.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: And we’re joined now by David Becker. He’s CBS Information election legislation contributor.

David, welcome again right here.

We simply had that dialog in regards to the surroundings that we’re in proper now. I do know you might have been elevating issues for some time about a lot of your colleagues, individuals you understand who function election employees, who’re fearful about what’s to come back.

What are you listening to?

DAVID BECKER: Sure, I imply, they’ve been struggling for 2 years now abuse, threats and harassment not solely directed at them and their staffs, however their households, their kids in some instances. It looks like election deniers do wish to create an surroundings of worry.

I believe they need election officers to be scared. And so they need voters to be scared, to a point. I believe it is also actually exceptional that voters have responded with over 20 million of them voting already. Now we have 1.6 million of them having already voted in Georgia alone.

The surroundings is absolutely scary proper now for lots. I imply, we see that from the polling. We see that from what Scott was simply speaking about earlier as nicely.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And these are individuals in your group that you understand.

DAVID BECKER: Sure.

MARGARET BRENNAN: This is not huge, dangerous Washington.

DAVID BECKER: No.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper.

DAVID BECKER: I speak to election officers often. I used to be speaking to an election official in Florida simply final night time who was coping with a difficulty at a polling place.

I speak to election officers in Arizona, together with these points that we’ve seen in Maricopa County, Arizona. Vital to notice that…

MARGARET BRENNAN: These males within the tactical gear that we have been simply speaking about.

DAVID BECKER: Proper, at a few…

MARGARET BRENNAN: … {that a} federal — federal decide says is their — is permitted.

DAVID BECKER: Proper, sure, not less than for now.

It has been appealed to the Ninth Circuit, and it is going to be heard subsequent week. So, we’ll see if that’s nonetheless the case. Below federal legislation, there are a number of statutes that prohibit voter intimidation or tried voter intimidation.

And I can inform you, as a former lawyer who used to serve within the Division of Justice, that videotaping or photographing voters towards their will, following them, that has been the type of exercise that the DOJ has seen as intimidating prior to now.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I wish to make a really clear distinction right here, as a result of we have been speaking about with Congressman Emmer the decision for individuals — and you’ve got heard it from the top of the RNC — to come back and watch voting happen.

That isn’t unlawful.

DAVID BECKER: No, it is not solely not unlawful.

Correctly educated ballot watching by each events is a extremely good factor. Excessive transparency is one thing that is practiced by election officers everywhere in the nation. They need individuals to come back in and see what they’re doing. That could be a actually good factor. However they function flies on the wall. In the event that they see an issue, they’re speculated to report it to the right authorities.

After we see vigilantes — and that is solely taking place in a number of locations — begin to take issues into their very own arms, these individuals are not correctly educated. However individuals who wish to volunteer to be ballot employees working for the precise election jurisdiction, extra ballot watchers working for his or her campaigns or their political events, so long as they’re well-trained, that is a extremely good a part of the method.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Mm-hmm. However voter intimidation is illegal.

DAVID BECKER: That is proper.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You — we have been wanting in our analysis right here at that the AP has a report saying probably the most litigation ever fired — filed earlier than an election is occurring proper now, most of these lawsuits by Republicans.

What does that sign to you?

DAVID BECKER: Effectively, I believe individuals are very attuned to what is going on on with the election course of. That is not essentially a foul factor.

We’re additionally seeing efforts to vary guidelines in crimson areas as nicely, issues to put in hand counting of ballots, which is a extremely dangerous thought, actually comes up with inaccurate counts, takes quite a bit longer, breeds extra concern in regards to the course of. A county known as Nye County in Nevada is doing that.

However resolving these sorts of disputes earlier than the election is an effective factor. So, if we’re having numerous litigation, it is vital for everybody to know the foundations by election night time.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.

DAVID BECKER: It isn’t OK to query these guidelines after the election. You talked about that Texas lawsuit that got here in December 2020.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.

DAVID BECKER: That was an ideal instance of that.

MARGARET BRENNAN: All proper, thanks very a lot, David Becker.

DAVID BECKER: Thanks, Margaret.

And we will probably be seeing much more of you, I do know, within the coming days and weeks.

We will probably be proper again.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome again to FACE THE NATION.

We go now to the chair of the Democratic Congressional Marketing campaign Committee, that is New York Congressman Sean Patrick Maloney.

Good morning to you.

REP. SEAN PATRICK MALONEY (D-NY) (Democratic Congressional Marketing campaign Committee Chair): Good morning.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I wish to begin the place we simply left off with our different visitors. How involved are you in regards to the threat of political violence? And may you say, unequivocally, that you just and your fellow Democrats will settle for the result of your elections?

SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: In fact, we’ll settle for the result of the elections. At all times have. At all times will.

And – and we’re very involved in regards to the integrity of our elections, particularly when individuals are making an attempt to intimidate individuals with weapons, once they’re engaged in these techniques to attempt to undermine confidence.

Now, we’re – we will settle for the outcomes of the election. That is – that is the American approach.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Effectively, I am glad you mentioned that as a result of there’s been numerous consideration drawn to feedback by some Democrats, together with Hillary Clinton, who simply launched a taped assertion on-line the place she was speaking about upcoming elections and he or she mentioned, right-wing extremists have already got a plan to actually steal the following presidential election and so they’re not making a secret of it.

I perceive hyperbole, however would you agree that that is not useful within the present surroundings to speak about plots to steal elections?

SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: Sure, no, I do not perceive what which means and I did not see the remark.

Let me – let me inform you what I believe. What I believe is that it is completely reliable for each events to ensure that voting is truthful, that there is no fraud, that when votes are forged, that the individuals have a proper to forged them or do not. And that is regular. And in a detailed election, you may need a recount, you may need different examination of absentee ballots. That is all run of the mill stuff.

What’s completely different is individuals displaying up with weapons and sitting at the back of a pickup truck subsequent to a drop field making an attempt to scare the tar out of people who find themselves simply exercising their vote.

What’s completely different is when a president, for the primary time in our historical past, says he was cheated out of the consequence when he is aware of that is a lie. So, let’s — let’s not – let’s not – let’s not faux for a minute that either side have the identical – similar quantity of accountability for – for the lack of confidence in our elections. One aspect has been on the market for a few years now doing the whole lot they will to faux Joe Biden did not win truthful and sq. when he did. And that is the distinction.

MARGARET BRENNAN: On that matter, Democrats shelled out about $53 million to help 13 Republican candidates through the primaries. I do know you are a part of technique right here and the technique was to raise much less electable Republicans in an effort to profit Democrats. And a few of this labored for you, however in not less than two races these guys have practical photographs at victory. I am John Gibbs in Michigan, for instance.

Do you’re taking duty for serving to election deniers?

SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: Effectively, on the DCCC, there’s just one race within the nation, one, the place we – the place we have interaction within the – within the tactic you are speaking about. And what we did was we ran an advert that is true that mentioned he is too excessive for western Michigan. And we ran that basic election advert about two weeks early. And Hillary Scholten has been beating him constantly since she grew to become our nominee. She’s a robust pro-choice Democrat. He is a nut.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So that you stand by the technique?

SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: And he or she’s going to — and he or she’s going to beat him.

What I can inform you is that, in a funds of $340 million, we spent about $400,000 working a real basic election business two weeks early calling John Gibbs an extremist, which he’s. And – and that is all you are speaking about.

Now, I am unable to be — I – I am unable to reply to what governors did or what senators did or what different individuals did. However the committee I ran, in a funds of $300 million, put $400,000 into rushing up a basic election advert that was truthful.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.

SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: And we will win that race.

MARGARET BRENNAN: The highest three points after we speak to voters that they inform us they’re involved about are economic system, inflation and crime. Half of voters, in accordance with our ballot, suppose Democrats would minimize police funding. Now, I noticed an advert the DCCC simply purchased in your district, and it opens with you speaking to a policeman. You’re keenly conscious of this. Why hasn’t your get together been in a position to shake that notion of being mushy on crime?

SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: Effectively, as a result of a lie will get midway all over the world earlier than the reality will get its footwear on, because the saying goes. In my very own case, I introduced $7 million for native police departments, supported the Make investments to Shield Act, which can fund all of the police departments in my district, all underneath 125 officers. That is a very powerful help we have finished for police in 30 years.

And if you happen to care about rising crime, my goodness, we should always hearken to police who’re begging us to do one thing in regards to the gun violence, which is on the coronary heart of a lot rise in crime. And, in fact, the MAGA crowd is within the pocket of the NRA and will not contact frequent sense (ph) bipartisan gun security laws, which we handed by way of the Home.

So, we’ve a report of outcomes supporting good policing and – and – and going after gun violence. And that is what individuals have to know.

MARGARET BRENNAN: In our ballot, 46 % of voters consider Republicans’ financial insurance policies will assist them. Solely 40 % say the identical about Democrats. Fifty-three % of voters consider gasoline costs will go up underneath Democrats. Twenty-one % say the identical of the – of the GOP. I imply, because you’re speaking technique right here, in these closing days, how do you alter these perceptions and the way do you get out youthful voters?

SEAN PATRICK MALONEY: Proper. Effectively, what individuals have to know is that we’ve a plan for cheaper gasoline, cheaper groceries, cheaper housing, cheaper well being care. Now we have a plan for safer streets, supporting good policing and attacking gun violence, which is a lot of the issue, and supporting our freedoms, our reproductive freedoms and our voting rights. And that is a — these are actual plans.

Now, you possibly can take a ballot and you may – you possibly can take a snapshot at any given time. However, in fact, your former visitor had no plan for the economic system. They don’t have any plan for gun violence. They don’t have any plan to maneuver our nation ahead, defending voting rights, defending reproductive freedoms. So — so what I’d say is, do not punish the people who find themselves fixing your issues and do not reward the people who find themselves making an attempt to use the issues for their very own political energy. That is actually the distinction proper now. We’re – we’re engaged within the onerous work of bringing our nation ahead. The opposite aspect’s engaged on their very own energy.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Congressman, thanks to your time this morning.

We’ll be proper again.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: We wish to take a better take a look at a few of our battleground tracker findings and the problems which might be setting the temper in America in these ultimate days of marketing campaign ’22.

Mark Strassmann reviews from Los Angeles.

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MARK STRASSMANN (voice over): America’s zeitgeist, vulnerability, like this residence invasion hammer assault on a politician’s 82-year-old partner, reinforcing we’re an anxious, typically resentful bunch heading into midterms.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now with Joe Biden, there is a huge thumb on high of you the place you possibly can’t take pleasure in your self.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I simply have to see some peace. And I believe the one approach to do that is voting.

MARK STRASSMANN: The economic system, particularly inflation, indisputably high of thoughts in voter anxiousness.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The price of groceries are outrageous. Utilities are outrageous. It retains going up.

MARK STRASSMANN (on digicam): And gasoline costs. Have a look at these in Los Angeles, proper at $7 a gallon for normal. That will be nightmarish in many of the nation. However right here in L.A., costs have really been coming down within the final couple weeks.

MARK STRASSMANN (voice over): In our newest CBS Information ballot of registered voters, a majority blame President Biden and the Democrats for the economic system and gasoline costs. The president preventing that notion.

JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Unemployment just isn’t 6.5 however 3.5 %, the bottom it has been in 50 years.

MARK STRASSMANN: Republicans see inflation numbers and odor blood.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX): Not only a crimson wave, however a crimson tsunami.

MARK STRASSMANN: Crime is one other voter fear, like final week’s lethal college taking pictures in St. Louis, the fortieth this 12 months involving accidents or deaths. In main cities, homicide charges and shootings, each down barely, however from a 30 % spike two years in the past. Our ballot exhibits Republicans have a double-digit lead on crime insurance policies to make you’re feeling safer.

However American voters need this election cycle of management to confront different challenges. Immigration, an infectious dies trifecta, Covid, the flu and RSV, gun coverage and abortion in a post-Roe America. Our ballot says a majority of voters suppose Republicans will move a nationwide abortion ban.

One other fear, tradition wars invading the classroom and efficiency that is plummeting. It is another problem calling out for grownup intervention as tens of millions of Individuals now vote for his or her thought of a grownup, figuring out that whoever wins, half the nation will resent it, once more.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: Mark Strassmann reporting from Los Angeles.

Our new CBS Information battleground tracker ballot exhibits Republicans nonetheless have an edge within the race for management of the Home. CBS Information elections and surveys director Anthony Salvanto is right here.

Anthony, inform us extra.

ANTHONY SALVANTO: Good morning, Margaret.

You already know, we have been speaking to voters all through this marketing campaign in all of the congressional districts. Proper now our newest CBS Information estimate is that the Republicans lead in 228 districts. That is sufficient to take the Home majority.

Now, there’s a vary round these estimates. Let me present you the political implications right here. They actually focus on turnout. You would possibly ask, do Democrats have any probability to hold on, even to a slim Home majority? The reply to that begins with the chance that they’d get larger turnout from youthful voters. If voters present up the best way they did in, say, 2018, that might get the Democrats slightly bit nearer, make the Home successfully even. The difficulty for them is, we’ve not seen sturdy indications that that’s going to occur.

The extra seemingly state of affairs is that Republicans, who do have an specific turnout benefit, extra motivation, extra enthusiasm up to now, if their turnout benefit grows, we plug that into the mannequin and that might get the Republicans as much as 238 seats, a barely bigger majority.

Now, in any case, we’re a seat acquire right here for the Republicans that is about and even under common for a celebration out of energy. You would possibly ask why that’s, particularly given the issues in regards to the state of the nation and the state of the economic system.

Let me present you a cut up that I believe tells numerous the story.

I requested individuals, which issues you extra, whether or not or not the U.S. goes to have a functioning democracy or whether or not it’ll have a robust economic system? And the outcomes are considerably cut up. However take a look at the voting variations right here. Those that are extra involved about functioning of democracy, voting for Democrats. These extra involved in regards to the sturdy economic system, voting for Republicans. And I believe that defines the best way that voters see the very massive stakes right here and the best way the events are expressing these stakes, which is partly why this race is so locked in.

Margaret.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Anthony Salvanto, thanks.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: For extra now we flip to our political panel.

Amy Walter, writer and editor-in-chief of “The Prepare dinner Political Report,” senior White Home and political correspondent, Ed O’Keefe is right here, and Nick Timiraos, chief financial correspondent for “The Wall Road Journal” can also be on the desk.

Good morning to all of you.

AMY WALTER (Writer and editor-in chief, “Prepare dinner Political Report with Amy Walter”): Good morning.

NICK TIMIRAOS (Chief financial correspondent, “The Wall Road Journal): Hello.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, Amy, we simply heard Anthony’s state of affairs right here. This isn’t a crimson wave, however it’s a Republican majority. Does it match with what you are seeing?

AMY WALTER: Sure. I believe the best way that Anthony pointed it out is a really good mind-set about this.

You already know, elections — usually midterm elections, the problem for the in-party often is that their very own aspect does not prove. And that is the place the opposite aspect is far more motivated. And once you see these huge, huge beneficial properties, like we noticed say in 1994 or 2010 on the a part of Republicans. This 12 months we’re seeing that Republicans and Democrats are motivated. Republicans slightly bit extra. However Democrats really feel fairly good that they are not less than getting extra of their base turned out. Now, younger voters being all the time a problem for Democrats.

However, look, I believe what occurred over the course of the summer time is that the problems surrounding abortion rights, plus the concentrate on Donald Trump, January sixth, and, fairly frankly, slightly higher of an financial image gave some increase of enthusiasm to Democrats and acquired them energized by way of the voters, extra energized to prove. Nevertheless it feels as if that has just about stalled. That it hit this level and it hasn’t actually gone a lot additional. And, as a substitute, the place the main target is now, it is now not as a lot about abortion or Donald Trump, and far more in regards to the issues that Anthony identified, which is the economic system, gasoline costs and folks feeling, fairly frankly, fairly caught.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And we body this as, you understand, kind of a alternative with (INAUDIBLE). And – and, Ed, in a few of these current politic advertisements, I am eager about in Maloney’s district, I used to be simply watching one, they’re altering the main target to be about extremism.

ED O’KEEFE: Sure.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So not even speaking in regards to the affirmative case, however worry the opposite aspect.

ED O’KEEFE: Proper. Not – and never solely within the realm of democracy and – and people issues, however within the realm of abortion rights and – and Social Safety and Medicare being ripped up or rethought.

I watched Maloney this week really make that precise argument to a bunch of seniors in assisted dwelling amenities. He mentioned, if you happen to do not suppose they may come after your Social Safety and Medicare, look what they only did to abortion rights after 50 years of threatening to do it. In order that’s type of a approach to make each arguments on the similar time however not make an unique (ph) abortion argument. And that is the type of pivoting that they’ve finished right here, now realizing that abortion is not as pressing a difficulty.

A part of the explanation one Republican I talked to this week mentioned, look, you go take a look at moms throughout the nation who could also be involved about abortion rights, however they don’t seem to be essentially bumping up towards the difficulty of abortion rights each day, they’re bumping up towards the truth that beef is costing 3 times as a lot because it did earlier than.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper.

ED O’KEEFE: And people extra pressing financial points could also be what’s drawing individuals again over to the Republican aspect.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.

I wish to come again to the difficulty of abortion in a second.

However, Nick, are you able to decide up on this as a result of our ballot exhibits 69 % of voters describe the situation of the nationwide economic system as dangerous. Solely 27 % say it is good.

You have acquired a bit saying — out in “The Journal” saying mainly American customers are doing fairly nicely.

NICK TIMIRAOS: Sure.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So, why do not they really feel that approach?

NICK TIMIRAOS: Sure, that is a fantastic query, Margaret. You already know, the difficulty right here is that if you happen to take a look at the labor market, 3.5 % unemployment price, what’s to not like about that? However if you happen to take a look at, you understand, what’s taking place with wages, they aren’t maintaining with costs. We had one other report Friday that exhibits that Individuals’ wages usually are not maintaining with costs. And so these are actual earnings cuts. No person likes that. You drive by the gasoline station, you see how costly gasoline is and also you take a look at what’s taking place proper now with rates of interest, they’ve gone up quite a bit this 12 months. Mortgage charges this week are above 7 % for the 30-year fastened price mortgage. We’ve not seen that since 2001.

So, sure, on paper, you understand, there are issues you possibly can level to that look nice, however individuals simply do not feel nice about it.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And we’ve this Fed assembly within the coming days. What are the conversations contained in the Federal Reserve proper now about when inflation will get higher and what they plan to do?

NICK TIMIRAOS: Effectively, the issue for the Fed is that financial coverage takes time. It acts with a delay on the economic system. So, you possibly can’t see your strikes instantly.

The Fed, this 12 months, has raised rates of interest because the quickest tempo for the reason that Eighties. Usually they elevate charges by 1 / 4 level each six weeks or so. This 12 months they have been going at three-quarters of a share level. And when you do not have time to see how that influences the economic system, it is like barreling down the freeway however utilizing the rearview mirror to information the place you are going. It raises the chance that you will drive off the street.

And the issue right here for the Fed is, they can not take a threat of not getting on high of this inflation as a result of regardless that the chance of doing an excessive amount of is a recession, the chance of not doing sufficient is that inflation simply stays excessive and you need to have an even bigger downturn later.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And, I imply, these are the main points of it. That’s financial coverage. What’s it that – that Republicans are literally arguing, Ed, they will do as a result of, actually, the fact is, their arms are fairly tied right here.

ED O’KEEFE: They’re. I – you understand, if you happen to learn their web sites, if you happen to hearken to what they are saying –

MARGARET BRENNAN: (INAUDIBLE).

ED O’KEEFE: They wish to minimize authorities spending and, in some instances, they wish to see implementation of the bipartisan infrastructure invoice that both they voted for and so they do not wish to admit that may assist their districts even when they voted towards it. And I –

AMY WALTER: Sure, I imply –

ED O’KEEFE: Go forward.

AMY WALTER: Effectively, and that is the underside line, once you’re in cost, and issues are going nicely, you get the credit score, numerous which you do not deserve. While you’re in cost and issues aren’t going nicely, you get the blame, even if you happen to do not’ deserve all of it. And once you’re the out get together, you get the advantage of the doubt as a result of voters are saying, nicely, I do not know, if Ed can actually repair this, however these of us who’re in cost, they don’t seem to be doing an excellent job. Let’s simply – let’s simply put it — let’s simply give them a shot, which is why Democrats are doing the extremism factor.

If individuals are upset with the established order, which they clearly are, Democrats’ solely probability to carry on, particularly in a few of these Senate races, is to say, the larger threat is taking a threat on the opposite aspect. Staying with the established order you do not like is uncomfortable however not as dangerous.

ED O’KEEFE: And the opposite ironic factor, quite a bit – very similar to the Fed, the – the issue for the Biden administration and Democrats is numerous their accomplishments are going to take time to be carried out.

AMY WALTER: Proper. That is proper.

ED O’KEEFE: The Medicare value cuts do not kick in till subsequent 12 months.

AMY WALTER: That is proper.

ED O’KEEFE: The bridge is not getting rebuilt till early 2024.

AMY WALTER: Proper.

ED O’KEEFE: To allow them to speak about all these items within the summary, however the voter cannot see it but.

AMY WALTER: That is proper. That is proper.

ED O’KEEFE: The president could know, come my re-election, if I am working in 2024, individuals will see what I did –

AMY WALTER: That is proper.

ED O’KEEFE: However I — they will not have the ability to see it earlier than November eighth.

MARGARET BRENNAN: It is also type of onerous typically to message round market forces.

ED O’KEEFE: Proper. Sort of?

MARGARET BRENNAN: You already know, an – an vitality analyst that I – that I communicate to was stating, you understand, Ron Klein, the chief of workers to the president, tweets virtually day by day in regards to the value of gasoline. He is like, why are they making an attempt to personal one thing they can not management?

ED O’KEEFE: That could be a query that the White Home chief of workers goes to need to reply for. And never solely is — why are they tweeting about one thing that they can not management, why is he tweeting a lot to start with each morning about this and different points when he, maybe, ought to be working the White Home? I’ve heard this from Democrats. I believe we’ll hear it much more from Democrats after the elections if it goes south for them.

It’s an obsession for them as a result of they know it’s the psychological and the kind of knowledge barometer that we have all used to measure inflation and the dialogue in regards to the economic system. However, sure, it’s one thing fully out of their management. And maybe by doing that it is — as that vitality analyst famous, it might have drawn an excessive amount of consideration to the president and permits him to take extra of the blame.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You already know, Nick, in “The Journal,” a survey of economists placing the chance of recession over the following 12 months as 63 %. So, that’s the Congress that Republicans can be strolling in to regulate.

NICK TIMIRAOS: Sure. And the difficulty right here is, the economic system is slowing. We knew it was going to gradual as a result of we had a growth final 12 months. But when it does not gradual sufficient, if customers hold spending the financial savings that they’ve accrued through the pandemic, then that simply means the Fed goes to come back in and lift rates of interest extra. You already know, this week we will get near 4 % on the coverage price that the Fed units, however we might go nearer to five % subsequent 12 months. And, you understand, there is a – there is a Fed chairman who used to say that it was the Fed’s job to take the punch bowl away because the get together was getting began. And that is what you are seeing this 12 months.

But when customers hold spending cash, we had very stable earnings reviews this previous week from United, Visa, Coca-Cola, if customers hold spending, then Jay Powell goes to get on the telephone and name the cops and say, we have to get the noise quantity down right here. We have got – we have to get these individuals to go residence as a result of that is simply not sustainable to have inflation persevering with to run larger and better and better.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Proper. And that is onerous to clarify typically that like issues — some issues are going to get dearer by design. It’ll get dearer so that you can borrow cash due to what’s taking place.

NICK TIMIRAOS: Proper.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Coming again to the difficulty of abortion, Amy and Ed. I believe it is fascinating that the dynamic appears to have modified on this by way of bringing out voters. You have been saying, Ed, that individuals really feel inflation, maybe, is a extra speedy disaster than abortion entry.

I’m wondering, Amy, as a result of it is so completely different state by state.

AMY WALTER: Proper. That is what we’re –

MARGARET BRENNAN: Is that it?

AMY WALTER: It is fairly fascinating really. The place we’re seeing Democratic — particularly candidates for the Home, having probably the most hassle is definitely in blue states, like Oregon, California, locations the place the difficulty of abortion is fairly nicely settled. These are Democratic-run states. They’re – the — it is not an existential query —

MARGARET BRENNAN: As a result of the state has already codified it?

AMY WALTER: As a result of the state has both codified or it is Democratic and the governors’ candidates have all pledged to go ahead in that approach.

It is the crimson and purple states, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, the place we all know that this difficulty just isn’t settled and the place, in Michigan, in fact, they’ve a poll initiative, in addition to a governor’s race. You’ve governor races in these different states. So, there’s far more of a – of a friction there, proper, in regards to the determination being decided by your vote this November that is not as obvious in a few of these blue states.

ED O’KEEFE: Sure. And the truth that they need to run into New York, Oregon, the president’s going to New Mexico this week.

AMY WALTER: Proper.

ED O’KEEFE: All of it speaks to the truth that maybe they might have miscalculated how abortion would work in these states and the way a lot cash Republicans need to spend proper now within the closing weeks to actually put a bunch of Democrats on the ropes.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Sure.

Good to have all three of you right here. Thanks very a lot.

And that is going to do it for us right here at FACE THE NATION immediately. Thanks for watching. And tune in subsequent Tuesday, Election Day. I am unable to consider that. Wow.

AMY WALTER: I am unable to consider you simply mentioned that.

MARGARET BRENNAN: And night time, beginning at 5:00 p.m. on our streaming community with a particular version of “Pink and Blue.” And we’ll be on each the broadcasts and streaming networks beginning at 8:00 p.m. Jap Time by way of the night time and into the morning.

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